Wednesday, January 11, 2006

Anti-Christian Comments By A Saudi Professor of Islamic Law on Saudi TV

Sheikh Abd Al-Aziz Fawzan Al-Fawzan, a professor of Islamic law at Al-ImamUniversity, who frequently appears on Saudi TV recently made anti-Christian comments on Saudi Al-Majd TV.

He told his audience to hate anyone "who worships Christ, son of Mary" and added that "whoever says 'I don't hate him [i.e. a Christian]' is not a Muslim..." He went on to explain that such an attitude "is not racism" since the Christian is not hated "because of his color, gender, blood, country, or because he is American, European, Chinese, or Asian," and stipulated that this hatred should be "positive hatred" that guides and reforms.

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At 12:49 PM , Blogger Egypeter said...

What would happen to the Islamic world if a Christian priest said the same thing but in reverse?

But you see this would never happen because we are commanded by Jesus to LOVE our neighboor (even enemy)...this is one of the fundemental differences between Islam and Christianity.

It's so sad that these hate preachers have a pulpit to spread their venom...I pray Muslims ignore the hate and evil that these Imams spread.


At 8:42 PM , Anonymous raif said...

This so called professor is hurting Islam a great deal. What he says shows nothing but utter hate and savage anger towards ALL non moslems. The interesting thing is that he says that his hate is not related to race, colour, or social factors. No...this hate is very general, and based on what people believe in ! Simply put, he claims that Islam calls for hating Christians, Jews, Hindus, and everyone else in the whole entire world who is not Moslem!!

Do you, if you are a Moslem, agree with that? Does your religion urge you to hate your neighbour, your collegue, or your friend, simply because he happens to think in a different way than you do? Do you agree with what some people say that Islam is a religion of hate, killing, and abuse of all nonmoslems??

It would have been very different if this so called professor said that,from his point of view, he does not agree with the non moslem ideas, but he still LOVES non moslems. and then again if he said that, he would be acting like a Christian...right??

At 11:31 PM , Anonymous Meriam said...

So racist, but this is the realy world that Copts persevere on daily basis....mosques breed hatred towards Christians and Jews and all non-Muslims in Egypt. I think it's up to the Muslims themselves to address the problem rather than being in denial.

At 5:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I Agree with you that this is complete BS ! People like that should be banned from speaking. As an Egyptian Moslem I was tought by religious figures to love everyone no matter what race, religion, sex and nationality. The Prophet Mohamed (PBUH) was married to a Christian so how can these idiots come out and say we should hate Christians. If God didn't want there to be other religions he would have made sure that there were not any race with other religions. There is nothing in the Koran that says that you should hate other relgions. These so-called Professors have a personal agenda which is dangerous to all ! May God save us Moslems and Christians from these sad sods

At 3:31 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep shining the light of day on these cockroaches!

Someone should tape record every mosque megaphone in Cairo and Riyadh and translate and publish them.

At 4:14 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

trust me the Cairo ones are not that bad it is the saudi wahabi's !! they pretend that they know islam while they don't

At 2:23 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

As a Muslim, I don't hate a Jewish, Christian, or any non-muslim for being non-muslim, but what I do hate is the concept of the trinity, giving God human attributes, and worshipping idols man or man-made instead of God. Basically no different than how you feel about the Saudi cleric. To put it simply, I may not hate the person, what he or she believes is between him or her and God, but I do hate the belief itself in that it disagrees with what I believe in, that God is one the only the unequalled who had no son and wasn't begotten.

"Qul ya ayyoha al kafiroon, la a3bodo ma ta3bodoon, wala antom 3abidon ma a3bod, wala an 3abidon ma 3abadtom, wala antom 3abidoon ma a3bod, lakom deenokom wa liya deen"

At 4:09 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

and egypeter, a christien priest, make that christian priests, did say the same things, and Muslims ended up with the crusades, the spanish inquisition, and countless massacres (not necessarily against Muslims), all in the name of the cross.

Again, I don't condone the idea of hatred towards people for what they believe, but I am allowed to disagree and perhaps as strongly as hate what the belief itself. I dislike the "hollier than thou" attitude in this "witch hunt" weblog, so a response to your comment is warranted. Speaking of witch hunts, wasn't that also instigated by a christian priest.

And a wise man once said, when you point with one finger, four point right back at you.

At 11:02 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear Muslims friends,
We thank you for sharing your thoughts regarding this issue. I always believed that Muslims of Egypt are the best and most knowledgeable among all Muslims. Unfortunately, the influx of petro-money into Saudi made some of them think that money brings with us knowledge, which is not true.
There is great misunderstanding between the Muslim and Christians. Let me explain something here to help. As a Christian, I don’t worship Issa the son of Mary, nor do I worship a trinity. In fact the Bible does not have the word trinity in it. God is never like man but man was created in the image of God in his/her ability to think, create and to be in relationship with his/her creator.
Let me put in a simple way. The trinity is not God, but God revealed His triune nature (don’t be confused, we would say: ‘one is not God, but God is One’, is not that statement correct!).
God is unknown, unknowable and hidden, yet this Great God appeared to us in a person called Jesus (savior). This Jesus has nothing in relationship to Issa of Islam and the Triune God of Christianity has nothing in common with the Allah, Issa and Mary of Islam. If you start to examine Christianity as Christians believe it, you will start to understand the root of many of this confusion.
To give you a test of what Christians believe, please read the following description of God from an Algerian Christian from the fourth Century.

Consistent with theism, Augustine (354-430) regarded God as omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent, morally good, the creator (ex nihilo) and sustainer of the universe. Despite these multiple descriptors, God is uniquely simple. Being entirely free, he did not have to create, but did so as an act of love. As his creation, it reflects his mind. Time and space began at creation, and everything in creation is good….Augustine developed a theme found as early as Plato, Aristotle, and Zeno of Citium, that God is a perfect being. After enumerating a hierarchy of excellencies (things to be "preferred") Augustine affirms that God "lives in the highest sense" and is "the most powerful, most righteous, most beautiful, most good, most blessed" (On the Trinity, XV, 4). When we think of God, we "attempt to conceive something than which nothing more excellent or sublime exists" (Christian Doctrine, I, 7, 7). But where Aristotle concluded that the greatest being must be aware only of himself, Augustine emphasized an opposite and distinctly Christian theme: God loves creatures supremely to the point of becoming incarnate in Christ in order to be revealed to them and to reconcile them to himself.

At 11:27 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

more on God for Muslims by St John of Damascus:
The ultimate and supreme vision of God, the full and complete knowledge of His essence, is available to none. Not even the highest angels know God in His transcendent nature. Whatever knowledge created beings do have of God, comes solely from His revelation.

But even with all that is known of God, man knows nothing whatsoever of His essence, or of the manner of His Incarnation, or of His miracles. It is entirely impossible for man to 'go beyond' the knowledge given him by God; one must say nothing concerning the divine that has not been revealed through the Church.

God then is infinite and incomprehensible and all that is comprehensible about Him is His infinity and incomprehensibility. And the whole of what we can affirm concerning God does still not shew forth God's nature, but only the qualities of His nature. For when you speak of Him as good, and just, and wise, and so forth, you do not describe God's nature but only the qualities of His nature. Further there are some affirmations which we make concerning God which have the force of absolute negation: for example, when we use the term 'darkness' in reference to God, we do not mean darkness itself, rather that He is not light but above light; and when we speak of Him as light, we mean that He is not darkness
We have, then, adequately demonstrated that there is a God, and that His essence is incomprehensible. But that God is one and not many is no matter of doubt to those who believe in the Holy Scriptures. For the Lord says in the beginning of the Law: 'I am the Lord thy God, which have brought thee out of the land of Egypt. Thou shall have no other Gods before Me' (Ex 20.2, 3). And again He says, 'Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord' (Dt 6.4). And in Isaiah the prophet we read, 'For I am the first God and I am the last and beside Me there is no God. Before Me there was not any God, nor after Me will there be any God, and beside Me there is no God' (Is 44.6). And the Lord, too, in the holy gospels speaketh these words to His Father: 'And this is life eternal, that they may know Thee the only true God' (Jn 17.3). But with those that do not believe in the Holy Scriptures we will reason as follows.

At 5:57 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

eemc - it sounds almost the same as what Muslims hold to be true, God is one, not unlike any other, he had no son, nor was he begotten.

Therefore, I believe what you quoted to be authentic in the holy scriptures, but since you quoted a 4th century christian man, the existence of several "versions" of the bible, many having inconsistent statements (aka. taking God's name in vain"), is it not possible that the trinity was later added (i.e. by the devil and his followers) to the bible to lead mankind astray?
And isn't it inconsistent to give infinite attributes to God and then diminish God's capacity of self awareness?

Things that make you go "hmmm?"

At 1:19 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think you understood what I have said.
Islam invented an Islamic version of Christianity and then turned around and attacked it. That is the source of all confusion in this Islamic and Christian dialog. Muslims need to learn true Christianity not Islamic views of Christianity and then asked themselves if what Islam said is true or not.
As for the Trinity, it is not an invention by the Church but is a revelation by God to mankind. But in order to understand the Truth of the Trinity, you have to meet Christ first. And in order to meet Christ, you have to have pure heart.
Work on your heart, and you will meet God. And when you meet God you will never be the same.
The choice is yours. Seek Him and you will be found.

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