Saturday, March 18, 2006

Egyptian blogger expelled from Al Azhar University for his progressive views

Abdel Karim Nabil Suliman, an Egyptian Muslim student, was expelled from Al Azhar University in Egypt for expressing his progressive views
Abdel Karim Nabil Suliman [AKA: Kareem Amer] is a 22 year-old Egyptian student of law at the Azhar University in Egypt (Largest Islamic University in Egypt and the Islamic world), Damanhour Campus, and a women-rights activist
He also maintains his own
blog where he posts articles expressing his views on the need for political reform as well as reforming Islam
On Wednesday October 25, 2005 , Egyptian State Security forces took Abdel Karim from his home, and confiscated hard copies of his writings, this came right after Karim published an article titled: The Naked Truth Of Islam As I have Seen In Alexandria where he condemned the actions of the Muslim mob that surrounded the Coptic church in Muharam Bek, Alexandria and attempted to destroy it 2 years after a stage play in the church alleged to be offensive to Muslims.

On Tuesday, March 14th, 2006 Karim was called in for investigations by a "Disciplinary council" set up by Al Azhar University to question Karim over his articles and views

On Wednesday March 15th, 2006 Karim wrote on his blog under the "Events of Al Azhar Inquisition" saying:

"Yesterday, I went to my college in Damanhour to attend the disciplinary council I was referred to because of my views and articles that I post online, the accusations ranged from defaming Islam to atheism to libel against the grand Imam of Al Azhar and some of the university scholars
Karim adds: (They simply turned criticism into libel and defamation, they considered the criticism of terrorist teachings as a derogatory act against religion), Karim went on to say "

" I did not try to deny the writing of these articles that they took as an incriminating evidence, but rather I insisted that they are my personal product despite their warnings that by admitting so, I might face many consequences"

On March 17th, 2006 the semi- official Algomhuria Egyptian newspaper published the following:

"Professor Hamdi Shalany, PHD., Dean of the School of Islamic Sharia and Law in Damanhour decided to expel the student Abdel Karim Nabil Suliman for perpetrating acts and writings that defames religion in addition to defamation and libel against the grand Imam of Al Azhar
The disciplinary council has submitted a copy of the investigation documents for public prosecution".

Upon receiving the university's decision letter,
Karim wrote the following:

"I am not sad! Would one be depressed and sad when he recuperates his freedom? As I was being investigated, I discovered- for the first time- that being a student at El Azhar University means I was a slave owned by it.

Would I be sad because I recuperated my freedom? Would the slave be depressed when he manages to forcibly extract his freedom from the grasp of that who considered himself a master? Would he who wins over injustice, slavery, and intellectual restriction cry? I extracted it from them as they were bargaining with me over it.

They were expecting me to deny or evade responsibility of my free and courageous opinions - they were awaiting for me to give birth to a second personality during the investigations - but how preposterous!

The University of El Azhar is a racist university, with all that the word "Racism" entails. Its Imams and scholars always decry countries of the West, which reached a high caliber in terms of human rights, for having been racist countries at one point of their history.

Would those turbans void of brains remove the speck from their eyes first before blaming others for actions carried out centuries ago? It is a racist university for; in spite of the fact that it is a public university financed by all Egyptian taxpayers - Muslims and Christians alike - it only accepts Muslim students! Isn't that racism?

It is a racist university because it separates male and female students and places them in separate campuses. It even goes as far as banning its female students from studying certain specialties. Isn't that racism? If there is one thing for which I would like to thank that university of El Azhar, it is for having showed me its unveiled face that I would not have been able to witness had I not been one of its students.

I thank it for having opened its doors to me so I could see the laboratories of brain-washing and two-legged bombs, where an innocent kid becomes a rotten swamp after a couple of years, from whom emanates the odors of hatred, violence, and rejection of the other! "

55 Comments:

At 10:36 AM , Blogger kareem said...

thank you very much for your supporting .
i am very glad to see my recent article translated into english quickly as you do .
thanks a lot on that ...
and be in touch ..
kareem

 
At 12:10 PM , Blogger Egypeter said...

Hey kareem -

ALL good Egyptians in Egypt and around the world support you very much!!!

It is not very often one finds a critical thinking idividual who is willing to stand by their convictions.

I am proud to call you a fellow Egyptian! And I pray for your safety and future success. I think you have big and bright things ahead of you.

An Egyptian from Chicago

 
At 12:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can any university in the West offer him a scholarship to award this brave student? We should all campaign on his behalf

 
At 5:59 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am disappointed that the Azhar University, a symbol to Islam and Muslims everywhere would only expell this pathetic character. Some of his commentary is outright "kufr" (Arabic. Meaning disbelief). No wonder you hate mongers are all over this incident, it serves your twisted motives quite well.

"Wa lan tarda 3anka al yahoodo wala al nasara 7atta tatabi3a milatahom"

 
At 9:01 PM , Anonymous Bad Zhummi said...

"I am disappointed that the Azhar University, a symbol to Islam and Muslims everywhere would only expell this pathetic character."

That's funny stuff, blood sucker! You call for a death fatwa, and then have the nerve to call us "hate mongers". Hillarious!

 
At 9:17 AM , Blogger Prup (aka Jim Benton) said...

Kareem, any person who values free expression and free investigation should support you. I too hope that it is possible to find you a place in the West to study.

 
At 9:42 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It even goes as far as banning its female students from studying certain specialties. Isn't that racism?"

No actually, that is called "chauvinism" or "sexism" since it is based on gender. And I am not sure if you've noticed, but I don't see any female priests (or female rabbis for that matter) being ordained in the countless number of Christian denominations.

And on the same token, I don't see any Muslims allowed into seminaries to become Priests. The Azhar as I am sure most of you know, is a religious university, so I think it would be a pre-requisite to be Muslim.

Pathetic.

 
At 10:55 AM , Anonymous Talking sense said...

Anon 9.42,

If you don't see any female Christian priests, then it's because of you limited sight. Most important Protestant denominations do ordain female priests. It's true that some don't and that Roman Catholics and Orthodox don't allow that but they're backwards anyway.

So, it would be nice if you stopped spreading disinformation here, deliberately or because of lack of information.

For Kareem (although I don't know if you're reading this), I support you!!! You're brave and you should take the expelling as honour, not punishment.

 
At 10:59 AM , Anonymous Talking sense said...

Yeah, and to add there is a distinction between priest training and a religious university. If a Muslim wants to become a Christian priest, of course he or she has to convert first, just as a Christian can't attend a rabbi training institute to become one, or if you want to become a physician from an ordinary medical school, you can't deny Western medicine and adher to Chinese acupuncture only. However, we have many religious universities in the West where it doesn't matter what the students believe in themselves, just as it should be. This is similar to a foreigner studying at any institution which calls itself 'national university'.

 
At 11:39 AM , Anonymous Peter said...

The real pathetic is the Muslim who compares admission to Al Azhar university to a Christian seminary!
You idiot, Al Azhar is funded by the government, and it has schools of Medicine, Pharmacy, Law, Education,...etc...and limiting these to Muslims only is mere racism.

 
At 10:56 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kareem,
You have rare qualities of courage and integrity. Don’t be discouraged because you are not alone. There are many of us who love your writing and admire your strong stand for human rights and human dignity.
Your unique abilities to think make unique among many “submitted” and enslaved culture such as that of Egypt and the Middle East. I wish that every Egyptian young and old, Christians or Muslims, laymen or religious learn from you.
You reminded me with the late Martin Luther King Junior in the USA.
Great support, much respect and lots of love, I send to you.

Eemc2203@yahoo.com

 
At 11:19 AM , Blogger jay said...

We pray for you and your family for being strong and courageous about the truth.
The truth shall set you and the whole world free.
The only Hope for this world to be peaceful is to work for justice by speaking the truth

Justice can only be accomplished by spreading the truth about :
--Democracy, Human rights, Civil rights, and Women's rights, and the freedom for
people to choose those excellent and wonderful values without fear or reprisal.

The very Best to you,

 
At 11:21 AM , Blogger jay said...

We pray for you and your family for being strong and courageous about the truth.
The truth shall set you and the whole world free.
The only Hope for this world to be peaceful is to work for justice by speaking the truth

Justice can only be accomplished by spreading the truth about :
--Democracy, Human rights, Civil rights, and Women's rights, and the freedom for
people to choose those excellent and wonderful values without fear or reprisal.

The very Best to you,

 
At 12:04 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure you support Kareem because he's saying something you like, but for his right or for being a Muslim. He's now serving your agenda.

 
At 12:06 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure you guys support Kareem because he's saying something you like and it goes with your scheme, but NOT for his rights or for being a Muslim. He's now serving your agenda.

 
At 2:33 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

Kareem, bravo for your courage. We support you, and have published about you on our blog.

http://www.twoorthree.net/2006/03/egyptian_studen.html

 
At 4:46 PM , Blogger ph said...

Kareem, the very best to You.

Most chocking to see the letters of hate that even come to this site. Hate seems to be an Islamic speciality.

Muslims in general aren't like that, - let's never mix up the oppressed with their oppressors.

 
At 4:33 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I came across this by coincident. When I read the headline I actually respected Kareem. However, after reading the article it became clear that this person deserves absolutely no respect. It is strange to see how easily people fall into making the mistakes they criticize others of making. How could he write an article against religious hatred, yet use terms such as "all muslims like to kill and steel" and that "they should be removed from the society"!! This is hatred. I hate what some fanatic Muslims did to Copts and I hate what you're doing to Muslims. Deep inside, you must know that this hatred will do no good. It is power and hatred and human flaws that actually corrupt, religion is innocent. Look around, you would find murderers from all religions. The savages who torture people in Abu Ghraib prison are not representing the Christian faith. All religions might be interpreted in a way that would allow for hatred of "the other", it is our choice however to interpret them in that way.

 
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