Tuesday, March 21, 2006

Thugs of the Egyptian regime prepare to attack a historical Coptic Monastery

The 4th century Monastery of Apa Bane "St Vennie" (Deir Abu Fana, or the Monastery of the Cross) in Mallawi, Upper Egypt
On Sunday, March 19th, 2006 Generl Said Uthman Ismael, president of Mallawi city council, in the province of El Minia , Upper Egypt , gave 5 days ultimatum to Bishop Dimetrious of Mallawi to demolish the guest house located in the Apa Fana monastery or else face demolition by Egyptian security forces.

The monastery dates back to the 4th century and considered by historians and archeologists to be among the first to exist worldwide when Christian monasticism flourished out of the Egyptian desert.
The ancient sources such as the History of the Egyptian Monks (Historia Monachorum in Aegypto), Sayings of the Fathers (Apophtegnmata Patrum), Palladius' Lausiac History (Historia Lausiaca), Sozomen's Church Hisotory (Historia Ecclesiastica), and others make reference to a man named Benus or Banus (Bes) who lived near Deir Abu Fana and can be identified as none other than Apa Bane

In 1992, Apa Bane's remains were discovered in a tomb located beneath the nave floor of the funerary church of the monastery, along with other abbots

Coptic youth reacted to the threats of general Ismael by staging a sit in strike inside the monastery to confront the Egyptian security forces and defend the historical monastery against the Egyptian government thugs who seem to have nothing to do lately but harass the Coptic churches and places of worship.

Updates will follow

14 Comments:

At 12:08 PM , Blogger Egypeter said...

I can't take it anymore!!!!

This is RIDICULOUS! I swear it, if I lived in Upper Egypt I would encourage every able-bodied Copt (and good muslims) to stage a sit-in/protest at this monastary.

Is it a prerequisite to be a terrorist if you are to hold a governmental position in Egypt????

Do these pigs not have a soul or a heart??? Is there no compassion in Islam? Oh wait, Islam is "The Religion of Peace"...I forgot.

Please sweet Jesus protect this monastary and give strength and courage to the Copts to do what is right in Your eyes.
Everybody please pray with me.

Anyone who has a heart has a responsibility to send this news article out...raise awareness of the atrocities that have been occuring against the Copts unabated for FOURTEEN HUNDRED YEARS!

Peace

 
At 12:38 PM , Blogger DavidNic said...

My prayers are with my brothers and sisters in Christ. When you think about all that the monastic movement that came from Egypt has done for the world. All of celtic chrsitan monastic practices own their foundation to the Coptic faith.

 
At 1:34 PM , Blogger erudit said...

Lord have mercy.

 
At 4:07 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am curious why the monastary is being demolished?

 
At 12:08 PM , Blogger G. Brandon Hoyt said...

Any religion that confuses religion and peace.... Oh well, maybe I'll blog that on my own page one day.

 
At 3:31 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

To anon 4:07:

It's simple, because we are "kafr" or infidels. We are followers of a pagan (Christian) religion. They hate us.

Maybe this will help you understand:

"...fight and slay the Pagans wherever ye find them, and seize them, beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them in every stratagem (of war); but if they repent, and establish regular prayers and practise regular charity, then open the way for them: for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful" (Qur’an 9:5).

"Fight them, and Allah will punish them by your hands, cover them with shame, help you (to victory) over them, heal the breasts of Believers..." (Qur'an 9:14).

"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued" (Qur'an 9:29).

"Say to the Unbelievers, if (now) they desist (from Unbelief), their past would be forgiven them; but if they persist, the punishment of those before them is already (a matter of warning for them). And fight them on until there is no more tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah altogether and everywhere; but if they cease, verily Allah doth see all that they do" (Qur'an 8:38, 39).

 
At 7:54 AM , Anonymous Marco said...

Your article is very unserious. It gives the impression that they will demolish the monestery itself, but their target is the new guest house. Of course this makes the demolishen not better! But with the way of your article you move on the same level than these who wants destroy it.

Lord help them.

Marco

 
At 8:11 AM , Anonymous Peter said...

Marco
How about you listen to the monks from the monastry and tell us what you think?
Listen to the monk screaming for help as they are coming after the monastry itself and not just the guest house,,,the government refuses to grant them permission to build a wall around the monastry...Arabs fire live ammunition at the monks.., the government refuses to allow them electric supply...

Listen and please have the guts to respond
http://meca-me.org/audio/downloads/dir.zip

and

http://meca-me.org/audio/downloads/dir1.zip

 
At 10:56 AM , Blogger Egypeter said...

Check your sources Marco.

It doesn't matter whether they're destroying the guesthouse, the fence or the monastary itself.

It's ALL illegal and hate-inspired and somethig should be done immediately.

Why don't you focus on the message instead of trying to find details in the story to disprove?? Who cares?

 
At 11:34 AM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

DONT BE SAD FROM ME :BUT ME AS AN EGYPTIAN MUSLIM SEES THAT ITS THE CHRISTIANS FAULT AS AFTER ANYTHING THAT HAPPENED TO THEM THEY JUST SCREAM AND SAY GOD WILL HELP US AS IF GOD WILL SENT A TSONAMY ON THE BAD PEOPLE RIGHT NOW WHAT I WANT TO SAY THAT WHO DONT TAKE ACTIONS AND ASK FOR HIS RIGHTS WILL REMAIN BESIDE THE WALL FOREVER AND THATS HOW THE COPTIC CHURCH IS DEALING WITH THESE DANGEROUS STRUGGLES
IRONIC LOGIC U HAVE I THINK
THANK U

 
At 3:13 PM , Anonymous Anonymous said...

The problems of Egypt are a typical of non democratic and uncivilized country. We have laws which said that People are equal in front of the court, yet and in reality laws are not enforced or respected. In such situations thugs, criminal and aggressive groups can force their ways on the court and on the society. In summary we have lawless situation in Egypt and that ALONE is what is making life difficult to our people.
And in the absent of law a reaction by aggressive group can result in a civil wars (in case of Muslim minority in none Islamic society), or weak response (or no response but whining and wailing from weak community such as the Copts of Egypt would produce No results.
What is YOUR action?
My reaction is painful and slow but will work on the long haul, building a civil society. The problem with my approach is that there is no history of civil society in the whole MIDDEL EAST for the last 2000 years (yes, it is more than 2000 years and not 1400 years as some Copts love to think). In another way it is not Islam only but the culture before and After Islam which is NOT civilized.
Eemc2203@yahoo.com

 
At 4:19 PM , Blogger Egypeter said...

Um. I'm not really sure I totally agree with that eemc.

You said:

"The problem with my approach is that there is no history of civil society in the whole MIDDEL EAST for the last 2000 years (yes, it is more than 2000 years and not 1400 years as some Copts love to think). In another way it is not Islam only but the culture before and After Islam which is NOT civilized."

Israel is a civil society in the Middle East (that's b/c their not muslim).
Turkey is a semi-civil society (although they're not arab).

Hypothetically speaking, let's say the Arab Invasion never occurred in Egypt. Let's say Coptic Orthodoxy was freely allowed to grow and left to flourish without any undue pressure...maybe kinda like Greece. I know it's a sweet sweet dream but just pretend for a second. Who is to say that a flourishing democracy wouldn't be prospering in Egypt right now. As Christians we have a total different set of values that encourages thought, science, and progress. As Christians we are able to separate Religion and State. Who's to say Egypt wouldn't be prospering in that hypothetical?

So I think it's the culture that has been imposed on Egypt that is hindering progress in our country.

Peace.

 
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